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From: wayne...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Dwayne Allen Day)
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
: just a sucker for research....provided it can be done on the internet
: (DDAY is going to kill me for that attitude :-)). As long as you understand the extreme limitations of such research, you'll : During imaging operations, the data were stored in a 3 kg, 2 I had heard that Clementine flew with the most powerful computer before. DDAY -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Jim Kingdon <king...@harvey.cyclic.com>
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
> As long as you understand the extreme limitations of [internet] Uh, actually the odds of finding primary sources (if you count things > research, you'll do fine. For one thing, you will have a hard time > finding primary source material, particularly if it is older than 3-4 > years. like the Rogers commission report, NASA procurement documents, the Congressional Record, etc.) are better on the net than in most (any?) libraries (true, this is true mostly for records from the last 3-4 years). Granted, it isn't a substitute for going and ferreting out manuscripts, but it is somewhat striking (shocking?) how few people do that, even "researchers" of one sort or another. > Historians will never be able to rely on electronic records for the Uh, "never" is a long time, and if you include internal electronic > majority of their research. records as well as records publicly available on the internet, that might expand the scope somewhat, but I'll agree with the basic premise--that lots of things don't make it on to the net even in the present, much less in the case of events from a decade or a few ago. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: wayne...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Dwayne Allen Day)
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
: > As long as you understand the extreme limitations of [internet]
: > research, you'll do fine. For one thing, you will have a hard time : > finding primary source material, particularly if it is older than 3-4 : > years. : Uh, actually the odds of finding primary sources (if you count things But extensive research, for instance, that required for writing a book, is : > Historians will never be able to rely on electronic records for the : Uh, "never" is a long time, and if you include internal electronic First of all, the use of electronic message systems like e-mail really DDAY -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: er...@netcom.remove.this.com (Eric Smith)
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
Jim Kingdon <king...@harvey.cyclic.com> writes: I will disagree. Compare the amount of historical material available >>Historians will never be able to rely on electronic records for the >>majority of their research. >Uh, "never" is a long time, and if you include internal electronic >records as well as records publicly available on the internet, that >might expand the scope somewhat, but I'll agree with the basic >premise--that lots of things don't make it on to the net even in the >present, much less in the case of events from a decade or a few ago. on-line now to the amount that was available five years ago. In another 10-20 years I would expect almost all historical research to be done on-line (unless the government kills the Internet by taxing and regulating it to death). It will be only the truly arcane subject matter which will not have been transferred to on-line form of some kind. (Maybe I should substitute "electronic" for "on-line" becaue I'd also include CD-ROMs, or similar technology, which after all can be mounted on a machine and shared on the net.) ----- "They were like travellers unwillingly returned from brilliant realms, You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: C.A.Willi...@shef.ac.uk (Chris Williams)
Date: 1997/05/05
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
In article <ericsE9IoAI....@netcom.com>, er...@netcom.remove.this.com >In another Most historical research involves the study of 'truly arcane subject >10-20 years I would expect almost all historical research to be done >on-line (unless the government kills the Internet by taxing and regulating >it to death). It will be only the truly arcane subject matter which will >not have been transferred to on-line form of some kind. matter', however: I think that your timescale is wildly optimistic. Just maybe in a century or so, on-line research will be the standard MO, but before that, we have a lot of scanning to do. Chris You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: C.A.Willi...@shef.ac.uk (Chris Williams)
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
In article <5k8ovt$96...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>, wayne...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu >Historians will Hmm... maybe not contemporary historians such as yourself, but I can see it >never be able to rely on electronic records for the majority of their >research. happening for some fields (medieval, demographic, intellectual, economic) in our lifetimes. For the majority of their research, of course - not all of it. Chris You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: wayne...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Dwayne Allen Day)
Date: 1997/05/01
Subject: Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.
: >Historians will
: >never be able to rely on electronic records for the majority of their : >research. : Hmm... maybe not contemporary historians such as yourself, but I can see it You lost me. How can one do medieval research based upon electronic DDAY -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Henry Spencer <he...@zoo.toronto.edu>
Date: 1997/05/03
Subject: online vs. paper (was Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.)
In article <5ka73r$cm...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>, >: >...never be able to rely on electronic records for the majority... There is great interest in making various types of records available in >: Hmm... maybe not contemporary historians such as yourself, but I can see it >: happening for some fields (medieval, demographic, intellectual, economic) in >: our lifetimes. For the majority of their research, of course - not all... >You lost me. How can one do medieval research based upon electronic electronic form, by scanning or brute-force data entry. (Why? Well, for one thing, it is a lot cheaper to publish small-edition CDROMs than small-edition illustrated books.) For medieval history, the total corpus of available records is small enough to make it realistic to hope that they will pretty much all be online within the foreseeable (although not immediate) future. This is clearly impractical for more recent times. -- Committees do harm merely by existing. | Henry Spencer -- Freeman Dyson | he...@zoo.toronto.edu You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: di...@interaccess.com (Paul F. Dietz)
Date: 1997/05/04
Subject: Re: online vs. paper (was Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.)
On Sat, 3 May 1997 22:57:35 GMT, Henry Spencer <he...@zoo.toronto.edu> > For medieval history, the total corpus Is it clearly impractical? >of available records is small enough to make it realistic to hope that >they will pretty much all be online within the foreseeable (although >not immediate) future. This is clearly impractical for more recent times. Compression of textual images can be remarkably effective, especially See: "Managing Gigabytes" I. H. Witten, A. Moffat and T. C. Bell. Paul You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: wayne...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Dwayne Allen Day)
Date: 1997/05/04
Subject: Re: online vs. paper (was Re: Top 10 space probes of all time.)
Paul F. Dietz (di...@interaccess.com) wrote: : Is it clearly impractical? : Compression of textual images can be remarkably effective, especially I would advise anyone who is at all interested in this subject to actually DDAY -- "He's a writer! That's like an actor who's too lazy to work in a You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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