Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote:
>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
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> Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> > wrote: >>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
> It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
>Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote: >>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
>It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
Maybe you should check that statement with *Mrs* Klein....r
-- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
On 10 Mar 2010 00:22:05 -0800, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>David DeLaney filted:
>>Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote: >>>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>>>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
>>It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
>Maybe you should check that statement with *Mrs* Klein....r
No can do. She's in another dimension. --
Regards,
Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
>>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and >>> any scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>> So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due >> to gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
> It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or non-rotating?
>>>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and >>>> any scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>>> So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due >>> to gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
>> It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
> Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that > Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of > cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? > How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is > outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild > radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or non-rotating?
Ordinary Klein bottles contain all of space. A sufficiently large _rotating_ Klein bottle would contain all of time.
-- Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page.
>Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >> Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that >> Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of >> cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? >> How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is >> outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild >> radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or non-rotating?
>Ordinary Klein bottles contain all of space. A sufficiently large >_rotating_ Klein bottle would contain all of time.
Perhaps one *does*...that would sort of close the book on cosmology, wouldn't it?...r
-- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
>>>>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and >>>>> any scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>>>> So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due >>>> to gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
>>> It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
>> Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that >> Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of >> cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? >> How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is >> outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild >> radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or >> non-rotating?
> Ordinary Klein bottles contain all of space. A sufficiently large > _rotating_ Klein bottle would contain all of time.
> -- > Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org > For an e-mail address, see my web page.
What's not safe for work about Newcastle?! Does Australia have zero tolerance in the workplace?
>>> Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that >>> Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of >>> cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? >>> How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is >>> outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild >>> radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or >>> non-rotating?
>>Ordinary Klein bottles contain all of space. A sufficiently large >>_rotating_ Klein bottle would contain all of time.
> Perhaps one *does*...that would sort of close the book on cosmology, > wouldn't > it?...r
Ack! DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT close the book on cosmology. I'd rather die a slow heat death.
On Mar 10, 12:22 am, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> David DeLaney filted:
> >Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote: > >>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any > >>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
> >>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to > >>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
> >It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
> Maybe you should check that statement with *Mrs* Klein....r
On 2010-03-15, Marie wrote: > On Mar 15, 2:41 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote: >> Classical Greek lent itself to the promulgation of a rich culture, >> indeed, to Western civilization. Computer languages bring us >> doorbells that chime with thirty-two tunes, alt.sex.bestiality, and >> Tetris clones. (Stoll 1995) > I read Cliff Stoll's book one day and it explained much about LBL's > computer lab.
That sig is from _Silicon Snake Oil_. _The Cuckoo's Egg_ is good too. (I'm waiting for the library to get _High Tech Heretic_.)
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.religion.kibology.] On 2010-03-11, Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp@retep> wrote:
> Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >> Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that >> Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of >> cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? >> How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is >> outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild >> radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or non-rotating?
> Ordinary Klein bottles contain all of space. A sufficiently large > _rotating_ Klein bottle would contain all of time.
Somebody alert Al Gore! A Klein thermos bottle is the solution to global warming.
> On 10 Mar 2010 00:22:05 -0800, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> > wrote:
>>David DeLaney filted:
>>>Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgro...@NTLWorld.COM> wrote: >>>>> They are empty, they contain everything, including themselves and any >>>>> scale you use to weight them, so they cannot have weight.
>>>>So here's an interesting question, then: What's the acceleration due to >>>>gravity at the surface of a Klein bottle?
>>>It's a trick question, because Klein bottles do not suck.
>>Maybe you should check that statement with *Mrs* Klein....r
>>>> Here are four more interesting questions: Given the stated premise that >>>> Klein bottles "contain everything", for a bottle with a finite radius of >>>> cross-section (say 1 metre), what is the mean density of its contents? >>>> How big does such a Klein bottle need to be before its surface is >>>> outside of its event horizon? What about outside of its Schwarzschild >>>> radius? Would such a Klein bottle be considered rotating or >>>> non-rotating?
>>>Ordinary Klein bottles contain all of space. A sufficiently large >>>_rotating_ Klein bottle would contain all of time.
>> Perhaps one *does*...that would sort of close the book on cosmology, >> wouldn't >> it?...r
> Ack! DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT close the book on cosmology. I'd rather > die a slow heat death.
> > On Mar 15, 2:41 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >> Classical Greek lent itself to the promulgation of a rich culture, > >> indeed, to Western civilization. Computer languages bring us > >> doorbells that chime with thirty-two tunes, alt.sex.bestiality, and > >> Tetris clones. (Stoll 1995)
> > I read Cliff Stoll's book one day and it explained much about LBL's > > computer lab.
> That sig is from _Silicon Snake Oil_. _The Cuckoo's Egg_ is good too. > (I'm waiting for the library to get _High Tech Heretic_.)
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